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For any US soldier reading this thread: you are attacking another country to cover up for your pedophile president.
We need to call this the Pedophile War
I can’t help having the horrible thought that Epstein is our Franz Ferdinand.
Yup. Apparently the Clintons testified in front of Congress yesterday regarding the Epstein files. That’s not high on the list headlines today.
US government protects pedophiles. Their soldiers have no option than to comply.
Yes, they do. American soldiers MUST disobey illegal orders.
This is not clearly illegal. Disobeying these orders would get you a court martial, and they will say it was legal.
It depends on the orders.
Like when they invaded vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Venezuela?
Yeah they’ll totally not follow orders…
As the other comment says, these aren’t illegal orders. Wrong? Obviously. I don’t think there’s anything that could possibly make this illegal though. The only potential argument is that only congress can declare war, but that’s been pretty much fucked since the end of WWII. It’s illegal for them to tell you to target civilians. It’s legal for them to tell you to invade some foreign nation, for any reason.
Has Congress declared war? I thought that was the legal avenue for actions such as these.
Congress hasn’t declared war in a very long time. The president was supposed to have limited power to conduct military operations, but that power has been expanded over the past century to essentially remove the need for congress to declare war.
Again, not saying this is good. I’m just saying it’s probably legal.
Yeah, I understand, but I hold on to the notion that if there were representatives with a backbone, these orders would be challenged, with impeachments and other actions rightfully taken.
The land of the free pedophiles.
Iran has the right to defend itself.
They can try, but they’re kinda getting their ass kicked
How disgusting that you would talk about this like it’s some soccer match. What an absolutely inhumane thing to write.
“inhumane”[sic]? It’s a perfectly true and very human thing to write. Ever crack open a history book? Like, any history?
Am I incorrect, though?
Yes, you are. Why are you even asking?
It’s like the USA is falling in the void.
it’s an abyss thank you very much.
Sorry, it’s like I had to write it down so it started to sink, I guess.
Orange cunt shaking his shriveled dick covered in shit form his overfilled diaper. Way to go, USA!
That first sentence is a work of art.
American diplomacy in action.
The consciences of those honourable men and women serving their old country (the usa) must be taking a severe beating.
Please dear god USS Gerald Ford soldiers keep shitting so the carrier is incapacitated and the US can’t invade
Drill, baby, drill…
And s*** Netanyahu along the waywhy would you shit netanyahu?
Cruel dictatorship is good?
Where do we sign up to root for Iran?
If Iran was not the country it currently is, I would condemn the attack.
Iran being the country it is, all I can say is - I doubt if this brings about any beneficial change.
There are very few examples of regimes collapsing purely due to aerial bombardment. I can recall only one example (Libya) and it had opposition in control of some cities, ready for battle with government troops (which got bombed on their way to attack the opposition)… and not much happiness resulted from it anyway.
The US and Israel bombed an elementary school and killed 40 Iranian girls are you proud of yourself?
It’s their own fault for not being born someplace good. /S
Proud? Please explain because it seems you’re not replying to me.
I live in Estonia, that’s in North-Eastern Europe unless you know. We aren’t bombing Iran and couldn’t even if we wanted badly.
But our ally (Ukraine) is being bombed with weapons purchased from Iran and subsequent designs improved upon Iranian ones. I am also keenly aware that the Iranian regime has killed well over 10 000 of their own people to supress protests, and maybe as much as 30 000 (though I’m not convinced it’s that high, it just seems the realistic top end of the estimates). That’s a lot.
I am also aware that Donald Trump does not do humanitarian interventions, so the “current thing” is not a humanitarian intevention. It’s a boring ordinary war with one ruler (a wannabe tyrant named Donald Trump) going at another ruler (an actual tyrant named Ali Khamenei) who failed to submit to his demands. There seems to be another ruler involved, a wanted war criminal called Benjamin Netanyahu seems to be cooperating with Trump. This makes it embarrassing to look at, emphasizing that the current thing has nothing to do with international law.
A humanitarian intervention arguably could have occurred on the night when the IRGC and Basij started shooting masses of people. It did not occur.
In the best case, the “current thing” could have some side benefits to the Iranian people, but those are unlikely to become realized and could be dwarved by unpredictable harms caused.
As a result of the situation explained above, I find it impossible to say any words of support to anyone involved, only criticize them all. The word “proud” implies support. So you are extremely wrong to think I’m proud about anything happening there currently, and I don’t think others should be either.
Also, if you’re literally using the same type of propaganda that Putin uses. The Ukrainian government was bombing eastern Ukraine before the war up to 2022 leading to 3500 civilians killed, and this is Putin’s justification for invasion. Why are you using Putin’s tactics?
The Ukrainian government was bombing eastern Ukraine before the war up to 2022 leading to 3500 civilians killed, and this is Putin’s justification for invasion.
You are misinformed.
Do you actually know that war in Eastern Ukraine started in 2014? Have you read the timeline?
Yes, when a land war occurs, both sides will be shelling each other.
The casualty numbers due to Ukrainian fire (you forgot to provide casualty numbers through Russian fire - why did you forget? were they too big?) are unlikely, though, since it was a low-intensity conflict. But it was intense enough to drive 1.6 million people from their homes over time.
At some point, a ceasefire was reached, with sides agreeing to remove heavy guns and missile launchers to a distance from the line of contact. Then the ceasefire failed. At all points, Russia was supporting an army of approximately 30 000 to 40 000 soliders in Eastern Ukraine, and equipping them with everything from small arms to heavy artillery.
You mention “Putin’s justification for invasion”. He was already invading Ukraine in 2022. He had taken Crimea in 2014 and had been trying to take Donbas ever since, with low intensity warfare.
His true grievance was that Ukrainians had a revolution in 2014, and drove out president Viktor Yanukovich, whom Putin had friendly ties with. He responded with military force.
Please, study history. Do not let propagandists twist you around a finger. History is complicated but if you want to be adequate at politics, you must understand the topics you speak about.
But it was intense enough to drive 2 million people from their homes
Huh, that reminds me of something. “In 2021, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Iran published statistics showing that 4,037,258 Iranians were living abroad”. I wonder if the economic sanctions destroying the Iranian life have anything to do with that?
At all points, Russia was supporting an army of approximately 30 000 to 40 000 soliders in Eastern Ukraine
And how many soldiers and dissidents is the US paying? Does Iran live in isolation without US meddling and intervention? How many anti-Iranian militias are funded in the vicinity by the US? How about the literal training of Al-Qaeda leaders?
You mention “Putin’s justification for invasion”. He was already invading Ukraine in 2022
And the US toppled the democratically elected Mosaddeq government in Iran and reinstated the Shah as far back as 1953. Funny, we only analyze history for Ukraine? Does this fall apart for Iran?
I am also keenly aware that the Iranian regime has killed well over 10 000 of their own
Bullshit made-up Zionist propaganda. Even washington-based NGOs give figures well below the 10.000. Stop spreading fucking Nazi propaganda.
I wonder what causes you to lie, when you have information available that indicates the contrary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025–2026_Iranian_protests
Are you perhaps related to some group which Israel has attacked? Then I would understand the desperate need to support any tyrant, as long as they are against Israel.
If I were you, I would critically examine my news sources.
Lmfao the Wikipedia article literally references the 7000 figure I gave you from my link, can you read?
Are you perhaps related to some group which Israel has attacked?
Yes, Israel has attacked people like me: with a heart and a functioning brain. Which of the two are you lacking?
Iran sells weapons to Russia because the West sanctioned Iran for opposing genocide.
Sanctions on Iran pre-date the genocide in Gaza by a long time.
Iran was not the country it currently is, I would condemn the attack.
I wonder which countries played roles in it becoming like that. This would be what the 4th time Israel and USA have done/attempted regime change?
I know the history. It’s bitter.
70 years ago, Iran had extremely poor relations between government and parliament, but could have come through of that period without the UK + US organized coup.
The Shah could have been influenced and moderated, but nobody gave a damn.
The Islamic revolution was not the only possible outcome of the revolution to oust the Shah, but it was allowed to go that way. Nobody gave a damn.
The Iraq-Iran war could have been prevented. As it happened, it gave the ayatollahs legitimacy. They could claim to represent Iran as they were actually defending against an Iraqi invasion.
So, one act of malicious interference by the UK + US, several acts of the international community (note: of that time, with peculiarities of that time) not having any damns to give, and one act of malicious interference by the dictator of Iraq. And the various strikes and assassinations by Israel.
When evil fights evil is this… good?
Only if you believe the Iraq or Afghanistan wars were okay (in which case you’ll have to reasonably argue they were worth the millions killed, wounded and displaced in the process).
Well you’re right… seems to be same. Bad guy attacks bad guy saying to free people. A few years later thousands are dead, no one is free but some of the bad guys made good money.
I guess but i don’t have all facts
Was this your comment when Russia invaded Ukraine after Ukraine killed 3500 civilians in Donbas? I suspect it wasn’t, and rightfully so. Why is this any different?
Average Liberal cheering on the genocidal Israeli ethnostate.
what?
You said a silly thing.
Israel and the US bombed a girls school and killed 40 girls are you proud of yourself?
No.
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You are seeing Israel commit genocide and are already cheering on their next genocide.
Wow. Didn’t see that coming. Not at all.
he needed a quick distraction from MR “dead” esptein files.
not a distraction, just plain old imperialism.
I would not be surprised if my boi Epstein is chilling out somewhere in ISrael
Weren’t a bunch of analysis predicting this? The trump administration had apparently requested that Israel strike first to provide a flimsy excuse for firing their own missiles at Iran when the Ayatollah and his gang inevitably retaliates against Israel.
We were also predicting that israel would use their epstein blackmail to start their forever war. We were right.
i mean, they were openly saying they would do this.
Sending all those ships to the Indian Ocean. 🤔💡
Just a lil vacation trip for our poor lil soldiers :3
Israel has already stated officially that this was a joint attack with the US.
You’re looking at the odds after it already happened. It was like 5% yesterday.
youre supposed to notice the 80 million volume , obviously insiders were betting… is this why people add what i’ve always thought were unnecessary red circles and arrows?
“Your the reason for unnecessary red circles” is actually a devastating insult.
There’s two dozen pieces of information in that screenshot and you expect us to pick out the tiny one that doesn’t mean anything to us?
How does that work
Republican corruption and crime, mostly.
The USA has followed up now according to Reuters
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Oh no a country slaughtering civilians is going to get invaded… Anyway.
Wait, Is Israel being finally invaded?
Because it’s worked out great all the other times the US has done that
I hope Iranian civilians stay safe. As for the government? Don’t care.
This is disgusting. The Zionists are bombing Iran and this is your reaction? Why are you running propaganda for the Zionists?
How is this propaganda? The iranian government literally killed thousands of students who were protesting in the streets only a few weeks ago.
Well in this case, Casey is literally an LLM bot so it’s probably propaganda. Check their modlog.
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And your source for that is CIA, right
Guys, guys. Chill.
Both of these countries are killing their own civilian population. But now one of them is also killing the other country’s population as well. Probably soon to be joined by the other doing the same in return.
Let me just be the anarchist in the room and say fuck both of these countries. Fuck every country. We shouldn’t have countries. And we especially shouldn’t have countries that kill people, no matter which side of an imaginary line they’re killing people on.
Truth.
One of these countries is defending its civilian population against US bombs, the other is dropping them, don’t both sides this shit because Iran isn’t perfect.
I’m not trying to ‘both sides’ this shit as much as I’m trying to ‘no sides’ this shit.
You can’t no sides when you live on the side that’s dropping the bombs. The actions your words encourage within the west are the same that the most bloodthristy warhawks encourage. You are not supporting the Iranian people’s struggle by opposing the state protecting them from your state.
When a zionist says that Hamas doesn’t support gay rights, do you think they are trying to support gay struggles in Palestine? No they’re trying to justify murdering more palestinians, just like anyone who says “Iran also bad” in this thread.
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Is the US dropping bombs on Iranian civilians?
Yes, have you seen literally any time the US has gone to war anywhere in the last 80 years? We can’t even invade Panama or abduct the president of Venezuela without murdering hundreds to thousands of civilians.
Israel has murdered at least 21,000 CHILDREN over the past 30 months. To think that they have any moral standing is moronic at best, but more likely pure evil.
You’re referring to confirmed violent deaths. The number of victims including food deprivation, lack of medicine and sanitation and consequent diseases since Oct 7th is above half a million, about half of them children.
Yes, I’m only referencing deaths attributed to direct military action - or the IDF’s direct murder of children with bullets and bombs. This is not to minimize the horror they have inflicted through genocidal policy.
Yeah, I wasn’t trying to be belligerent or anything, just wanted to bring attention to it. Thanks for your reminder of the violence of the Zionist entity, we will not forget this
…and the sky is blue. But how is this propaganda? How is invading another country, propaganda for zionists?
I think they mean that you can’t fully trust the narrative about protests you read in the Western media. There is Israeli and US involvement in those protests trying to instigate regime change.
So the OP above is parroting Israeli/US propaganda by saying the protests are a justification for the latest military action.
Making a statement that minimizes state violence because it’s against a state that undertakes state violence is still minimizing state violence. In this instance it is minimizing the violence of a genocidal state that is far more violent than the state it is attacking for undertaking state violence.
So Israel and the United States are going to respond by murdering the rest of them? You do know that they bomb indiscriminately correct? I just don’t understand your argument here. If you’re concerned about civilian deaths how could you be supportive of this. They literally bomb hospitals.
Cool your tits. I didn’t say any of that.
Literal “Hamas is hiding in hospitals” levels of hasbara
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Ever heard of Palestinians? Gaza? No?
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You said they are promoting not slaughtering civilians, while they are slaughtering civilians.
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Zionists are dropping bombs on their population. Iran is defending against Israel and America.
too drunk to think?"
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Have you seen Gaza bro?
Atrocity propaganda justifying Zionist invasion. Literal “Hamas hides in hospitals” levels of bullshit.
Hamas had it operational bases under civilian facilities such as hospitals.
Look, this Zionist is still living in 2020, back when people believed this shit!
You’ll just believe anything they tell you, huh?
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They fed you propaganda for a few weeks to soften you up for the war that they were always planning. It’s so fucking obvious that the “protests” were just a prelude to these strikes, and you just eat it up because you’ll just believe anything they tell you.
Over 100 officers were also killed by these so-called “protesters” during the riots, doesn’t that strike you as odd?
The “protesters” attacked police and military targets, armed by Mossad and the CIA. In the chaos many innocent people who got drawn into the riots were also killed, and that’s terrible, but the fault lays firmly at the feet of Israel and the US. They tried to instigate a color revolution, and when that failed they used it as justification for war.
And you fell for it like you always do, because you’ll just believe anything they tell you.
Revolution includes attacking oppressors. Those “officers” were defending regime. Crazy bloodcraving regime. Russia ally regime. Religion nuts regime.
There’s nothing revolutionary about acting on behalf of Israel and the US.
Yes-yeah, Iranians are unable to act for themselves, they can only do what Israel/USA tell them.
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Yeah you never saw a CIA-backed coup you didn’t like.
I sure have, tons of shit they do is bat shit insane but I’ve never fired on civilians in response.
Retitle this to say the chairman of the bored of peace started WWIII
WWIII has been going on for a while, its just not really affecting north America or western Europe yet but Israel/Gaza/Iran, Yemen, Syria, Ukraine/Russia, and all the conflicts in Africa are 100% connected. Not an official definition or anything, but I’d say if a war affects 3 out of 6 inhabited continents it counts as a world war.
i’d say open sea predation by rivalling armadas on the other’s shipping supply lines and generally more a focus on interrupting the global infrastructure of the opponent would be a characteristic sign of a world war. now this is also contentious, when does an interruption count? only when it’s done through violence?
We’re stopping and confiscating and blowing up ships and boats all over the globe. Seems like we’re being awfully predatory at sea already.
exactly!
Fpr the record, this is not world war three, rather cold war two, the fascist boogaloo, the enemy within. Trademark.
the bored of peace
This name fits that group perfectly
The Zionist regime’s thirst for blood cannot be quenched… All my support to the people of Iran, I hope this doesn’t turn to disaster for them the same way it happened in Iraq or Afghanistan…
Currently in a country with a US base, currently hearing Iran’s missile blasts. Still on Iran’s side
Unfortunately few countries without US bases… I hope you and your loved ones stay safe
You too friend, and I hope things eventually improve without fearful leadership who see the US as the rulers of the world.
What is a Zionist and why does one thirst for blood.
the only intellectually worthwhile post i read here so far. thanks!
Ignorance of Zionism is “the only worthwhile post?”
Ya, that tracks…
in fact i embrace it.
Ignorance isn’t something to be proud of.
A racist who hides behind their Judaism and think other peoples land is their god given birthright.
There’s plenty of Christian and secular Zionists too it’s really just settler colonialist ideology that uses supremacy and pseudoscience to justify the genocide and annexation of land from the indigenous population
also there’s plenty of secular antisemitism, usually identifying itself as anti-zionist. Herzliche Grüße!
hides behind their Judaism
Modern day fascist. This time the “in group” is defined as Jewish Israelis.
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Israel and the associated political ideology of Zionism describes the settler colonialist state that relies on pseudoscience, theology and supremisist ideology to justify the genocide and annexation of indigenous lands.
