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    7 months ago

    I vibe with both anarchists (cool, helpful) and communists (smart, boring). Liberals drive me crazier everyday.

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      You have to learn to distinguish cool liberals, who are for individual freedom, democracy, progressive society; from the bad liberals who always side with private property against those things. The people in the first category are just confused; the people in the second category are actual class enemies. I acknowledge that these aren’t discreet categories and there will be some overlap, but winning people to your ideas slowly, over time – because these ideas are based in their material reality, which they need to test against their existing views – is the only way to get through to people. Sometimes the process is quicker, sometimes its slow, but its the only way to help people see the world for what it really is, and that together we can actually bring the fight to the ruling class.

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      It depends for me. The labels aren’t really useful if I don’t know the person. One kid I interacted with over a few months said enough in line with fascism that I call him that. Someone just telling me they’re communist, anarchist, liberal isn’t enough to really get their actual beliefs, given how much overlap and misuse of the terms there is. I will generally vibe with a more left leaning person, of course, so if any of those labels are used I’m like, cool, we’ll probably have good conversations. Even conservatives I’m opening up to. Republicans? My God. I blame my mental illnesses on that brain rot.

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      Oh I’m sorry have a offended you by being PRO LIBERTY? No, you know what? Stop posting then since you hate liberty so much

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        I genuinely don’t know how to take this comment. Is it serious? Is it ironic? I’ve dealt with a lot of angry liberals today, so I feel it could be serious. On the other hand it’s giving ::Randy Marsh in handcuffs:: and so I think it might be a bit.

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    7 months ago

    Do anarchists still exist anymore? I know it’s a fun name tag to wear, but I’m finding very few actual “practicing” anarchist organizations.

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      We do! In my area there are quite a few of us and we operate a number of collectives providing things like:

      • Free meals
      • Free groceries
      • Bike repair workshops
      • Theory reading groups
      • Clothing
      • Social activities

      Of course there’s also a lot of direct action going on for various causes.

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          Leftist groups of all stripes have a long history, and with that history comes books, essays, and pamphlets on strategy, analysis, philosophy, and outlook.

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          Having never done it as part of one such group, I don’t know exactly what goes on, but essentially there’s a large body of literature on leftist political concepts, covering the ideas of why anarchy rather than archy, how to practice it, how to organise etc. I’m definitely the wrong person to explain it, generally socialists (at least here) are the ones doing all the reading, I’m a lot more interested in praxis tbh.

          Some classic anarchist writers include Kropotkin, Bakunin and Proudhon, but the communist and socialist literature often applies too.

          The anarchist library has lots to browse and the anarchist faq is a great starting place despite its huge volume of content, I highly recommend casually browsing it.

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            Pleasently surprised to see Bakunins name dropped! Since there seems to be some misconceptions in this thread about what Anarchy actually is, I thought I’d share one of his quotes that has stuck with me through the years:

            Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice; socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality

    • BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee
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      YMMV depending on country. In the US you can find at least a handful of named anarchist organizations in any given state. Many anarchist or libertarian organizations keep it on the DL for a multitude of reasons. You may have better luck finding groups under the monikers of communalist, x or y federation, social ecologist, or just plain ole socialist. Mutual aid networks, food not bombs chapters, and IWW chapters are other spaces a lot of anarchists occupy. Many anarchists still stick to affinity groups and the like as well so, while they may be out there and active, it’s likely you’ll never hear about them. Further muddying the waters there’s also the concept of social insertion where anarchists support local movements and encourage (but don’t attempt to force) the popular movement to develop in a more libertarian fashion. Some big names in the libertarian milieu in the US are the symbiosis network and moneyless society. The black rose anarchist federation is another one I’ve seen around.

      That said, it’s still hard to find other anarchists in a lot of areas. I’ve been on the hunt for a while and haven’t had any luck in my area. The closest I have is a food not bombs chapter in my city but they’re all a bunch of zionist soc-dems. 🤷 They do good work but I don’t want to be the only anarchist in the group haha. I’ll be handing out zines and fliers at the pride parade in a few weeks in the hopes of starting a reading group and hopefully an explicitly anarchist org in my city

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          I may have worded that weird. Just to be clear, food not bombs in general isn’t a social democrat org. The chapter in my town just so happens to be run by them. More often than not, you’ll find at least a handful of anarchists in the mix at a food not bombs group

    • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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      in my country its mostly MLs. i think it tends to be that way in the 3rd world.

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      Don’t even know what it stands for. I don’t recall feeling a strong specific vibe from .ee people. By vibe I mean, I see a lot of people from that instance giving a vibe. Explaining it is complicated, so I won’t try, but based on some instances I feel there is a general feeling of how users may feel about certain topics, but .ee isn’t one I have any baseline for.