This is what they want for me, you, and our children and wouldn’t hesitate a second to do it again provided the line goes up

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    There’s pictures of children in the Coal Breakers. Missing hands. That worked back breaking labor sorting coal from my home town. It’s disgusting what people did to their children for money. Coal fields buried many children.

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      They kind of had to otherwise the entire family would starve. It’s fucked up, but right now the only reason I am stay afloat is because I live alone in a one room studio apartment with a communal bathroom. My mental health is kind of going to shit, but at least I get to eat.

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      What sphinx of cement and aluminum bashed open their skulls and ate up their brains and imagination? Moloch! Solitude! Filth! Ugliness! Ashcans and unobtainable dollars! Children screaming under the stairways! Boys sobbing in armies! Old men weeping in the parks! Moloch! Moloch! Nightmare of Moloch! Moloch the loveless! Mental Moloch! Moloch the heavy judger of men! Moloch the incomprehensible prison! Moloch the crossbone soulless jailhouse and Congress of sorrows! Moloch whose buildings are judgment! Moloch the vast stone of war! Moloch the stunned governments! Moloch whose mind is pure machinery! Moloch whose blood is running money! Moloch whose fingers are ten armies! Moloch whose breast is a cannibal dynamo! Moloch whose ear is a smoking tomb! Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Moloch whose skyscrapers stand in the long streets like endless Jehovahs! Moloch whose factories dream and croak in the fog! Moloch whose smoke-stacks and antennae crown the cities! Moloch whose love is endless oil and stone! Moloch whose soul is electricity and banks! Moloch whose poverty is the specter of genius! Moloch whose fate is a cloud of sexless hydrogen! Moloch whose name is the Mind! Moloch in whom I sit lonely! Moloch in whom I dream Angels! Crazy in Moloch! Cocksucker in Moloch! Lacklove and manless in Moloch! Moloch who entered my soul early! Moloch in whom I am a consciousness without a body! Moloch who frightened me out of my natural ecstasy! Moloch whom I abandon! Wake up in Moloch! Light streaming out of the sky! Moloch! Moloch! Robot apartments! invisible suburbs! skeleton treasuries! blind capitals! demonic industries! spectral nations! invincible madhouses! granite cocks! monstrous bombs! They broke their backs lifting Moloch to Heaven! Pavements, trees, radios, tons! lifting the city to Heaven which exists and is everywhere about us! Visions! omens! hallucinations! miracles! ecstasies! gone down the American river! Dreams! adorations! illuminations! religions! the whole boatload of sensitive bullshit! Breakthroughs! over the river! flips and crucifixions! gone down the flood! Highs! Epiphanies! Despairs! Ten years’ animal screams and suicides! Minds! New loves! Mad generation! down on the rocks of Time! Real holy laughter in the river! They saw it all! the wild eyes! the holy yells! They bade farewell! They jumped off the roof! to solitude! waving! carrying flowers! Down to the river! into the street!

      make america great again, I guess.

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    If the parents are made poor enough, this will come back. Just in case you don’t know why they kill social security.

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      When I was a kid, my parents would wax poetically about their summers spent picking strawberries and green beans earning 25 cents a day in California Central Valley. They loved it, apparently.

      Good, honest work they told me. Then as I got older they demanded I attend college and get a white collar career established, lol.

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        Let me wax in: I picked cherries as a kid. Not for poetry, though, but to make some money for myself.

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    This is why I get so fucking mad at the tradwife Tiktok people, who go “Oh feminists are forcing you to go to work, I miss the good old days!”

    Like no you fucking don’t, in the “good old days” since the industrial revolution anyone who wasn’t rich had to work their ass off in shit conditions, including women and children. These people never read The Jungle (that shit was horrifying in middle school, and I only read an excerpt), or saw the pictures of coal kids, or the Triangle Shirtwaist factory fire back in 1911 that killed 100+ women and girls.

    You get to pose for the camera with a full face of makeup and hold your soccer team of kids because your husband is rich and thinks you’re hot. Full stop.

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      Worst part about the Triangle Waistshirt factory fire is that the owners actually chained the exits and many of the fire exits were so poorly maintained that when the workers tried to escape using them, they collapsed and many fell to their deaths… and when a lawsuit was filed, somehow the judge believed that the whole thing was a whiny conspiracy and they ruled in favor of the owners.

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      Too many people don’t understand that politics decides whether or not they’d be a bonafide slave.

      Without laws in place there would be slaveowners today. Jeff Bezos? Elon Musk? They’d own slaves if they could.

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        Musk and his family owned slaves in South Africa before the apartheid government was overthrown. They fled to Canada.

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      I’m right there with you. Women have always worked and the 50’s housewife in the US is a historical blip that women fought to escape.

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        No, you are wrong and need to understand why.

        The ability to have that 50’s housewife was due to a single earner economy. You could be a bagboy at a supermarket and support a family of three … possibly even own your own home.

        This was taken away. Perspective

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          You’re not responding to my comment, just throwing in your extremely simplistic agenda. Your suburban american 50’s dream was a blip in time and space that is meaningless to most people.

          Edited to add: The labor force participation rate for women in the US in 1955 was 34.5%. Women even worked in the 50’s. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS11300002

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        I mean that’s just not true. I thought everyone learned about how WWII offered women the opportunity to join the workforce in mass numbers for the first time because of the crucial roles that were left open by the men who were off to fight. That’s what sparked the transition toward women’s right to work at all. Before that, there was no such right. Unless you are counting cooking and cleaning at home, or tending the family farm, as “work”, but I don’t believe that’s what people mean when we are referring to “a woman’s right to work”.

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          This is fairly inaccurate, as well. Paid work was certainly lower, but prior to the Industrial Revolution merely putting clothes on your back was a fairly labor-intensive task. One estimate puts it at 10 spinners to supply one person on a loom, and this work was often done by women at home, and was generally paid work in the Middle Ages. A British census in the mid 1800s, which over-represents unpaid work in domestic services as laborers (I’ll let you decide if that counts as women being part of the economy or not), still had about 50% of women in the census as employed.

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            I am responding specifically to the original point that the 50s represented a time where women somehow worked less than ever before. That’s just not true. I am not arguing against the idea that women performed valuable labor roles.

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          Cooking, cleaning and tending the family farm are all examples of work. As are making, washing and mending clothes. Teaching, nursing, bookkeeping, sex work and running a large household (or working in one) are also jobs. Helping to run the family business, whether a farm, a bakery, a church or a blacksmith, is working. Women did not just sit around embroidering things, and those who did sold their embroidery for money. You should also realise that all the men going to the office/factory every day is a recent development. My grandmothers both held gainful employment before world war 2.

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            Sure, but women still did all of those activities in the 50s. That didn’t change. And none of it is the same as holding a paid job. There were a small array of activities available to us, and we were expected to give most of them up upon marriage or at the latest pregnancy. And you couldn’t have a bank account or keep your earnings in any meaningful way. So the 50s were no different from the 30s or 10s in that regard, EXCEPT that women were entering the paid workforce in greater numbers than ever before, which is the opposite of your original point to which I am responding.

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              You seem to define work as holding a paid job outside of the home. I disagree with that definition.

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                No, I am arguing with the fact that you said the that the 50s were a “blip” of non-work in women’s working history, when in fact, all the same types of work that had been available to women for hundreds of years continued to be available to them in the 50s. The whole point of the Domestic Housewife image was an artificial cultural push to get women BACK into the types of work you are describing, the pre-WWII style of work to which most women did not necessarily want to return.

                Yes, there was a reactionary advertising push toward the Domestic Housewife image that happened in the 50s, but that was a direct response to the fact that in the 50s women were demanding to maintain the transition from home work to society work.

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    Most of human history was like this. The 50 year period after WWII is the aberration. If we don’t fight the oligarchs this is what they will reduce us to.

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      Most of human history…hmm checks notes… since the invention of capitalism about 400 years ago, yes.

      Even serfs under feudal lords had significantly more free time and while basic child labor was common, it was mostly in family run farms.

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        Pre-industrial societies still expected children to work from young ages. And they would often switch to adult labour in their early teens.

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          Right, but the industrial revolution wasn’t the mark of the start of this. The end of Feudalism is what they’re pointing towards. And they’re not arguing for Feudalism either, but rather that we should do neither capitalism nor Feudalism

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        Instructions unclear, reverted to feudalism, defended literal, inherited pile of manure with violence

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    I’d rather burn every city to the fucking ground than rob any of our children of their childhood. Catch my kids standing outside with the molotovs.

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    First quarter over quarter GDP gains have been less than expected. We have to look to out of the box solutions, and this blue sky strategy looks like it may show promise. I’ll forward this memo up to corporate.

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    And this photo shows a group of child laborers going in for a 12-hour night shift at a meat packing plant in Kansas, 2025. Just kidding, they will not make the mistake of allowing photography this time around.

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      Conservatives: Won’t somebody think of the children?!

      Subtext: as slave labor or sex objects or ideological battlefields or…

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    And just like the guard on a a meat grinding machine at a packing plant, the law doesn’t stop them from sucking in minors

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    Some more info on this photo:

    Photographer: Hine, Lewis Wickes

    Flashlight photo of children on night shift going to work at 6 PM on a cold dark December night.

    Work shift lasts all night, 12 hours.

    They do not come out again until 6:00 AM

    Child workers on their way to a night shift at Whitnel Cottton Mills. North Carolina, USA 1908.

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      Thank you so much for the link. The clearer image shows the girl at the door has her hand on her hip. I was afraid it might’ve been a stump. Which could have happened if it were caught in the machinery, though she’d likely have bled to death or been unemployable and starved.